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SonicMouse
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Posted - Oct 05 2013 :  6:41:51 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The last few updates have had major freezing problems in VC6.

Last general release version would freeze anytime you clicked on "Open Corresponding" or ALT+O any time after you added a new class. I just stopped using the feature (which i really liked)

Now in this new build it's freezing any time you type in #include in a source file after you add a new dialog or new class.

During a full work day, i probably "end task" and restart VC6 about 10-15 times a day -- and lose work and time.

If you guys aren't taking VC6 seriously anymore, please let me know so I stop paying for software upgrades and I can just move back to an older build and leave it at that.

Thanks..

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VA_X.dll file version 10.8.2001.0 built 2013.09.20
Licensed to:
VA X: ****@******* (1-user license) Support ends 2013.10.02
MSDev.exe version 6.0.9782.2
Devshl.dll version 6.0.9782.0
Devedit.pkg version 6.0.9782.0
Font: Courier New 13(Pixels)
Comctl32.dll version 5.82.7601.17514
Windows 7 6.1 Build 7601 Service Pack 1
2 processors (x86-64;
WOW64)
Language info: 1252, 0x409

Platform: Win32 (x86)
Stable Includes:
C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio\\VC98\\INCLUDE;
C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio\\VC98\\MFC\\INCLUDE;
C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio\\VC98\\ATL\\INCLUDE;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2\\Include;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2\\Include\\mfc;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2\\Include\\atl;
C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Speech SDK 5.1\\include;

Other Includes:

Stable Source Directories:
C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio\\VC98\\MFC\\SRC;
C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio\\VC98\\MFC\\INCLUDE;
C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio\\VC98\\ATL\\INCLUDE;
C:\\Program Files (x86)\\Microsoft Visual Studio\\VC98\\CRT\\SRC;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2\\src\\mfc;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2\\src\\crt;
C:\\Program Files\\Microsoft Platform SDK for Windows Server 2003 R2\\src\\atl;

feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
17573 Posts

Posted - Oct 07 2013 :  11:02:28 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
We are still supporting VC6, so apologies for this problem. So far I cannot reproduce this problem here, using VC6, VA 2001 and Windows 7 64bit.

Is your workspace on your local C drive, or some form of network or mapped drive?

If you create a new, default workspace, can you reproduce the problem there? I am just searching for any clues as to why this is happening to you, but not to me.

Next time this happens, can you please try grabbing a mini dump of "msdev.exe", this FAQ entry explains how:

http://docs.wholetomato.com?W303

and then send us the mini dump file please? Hopefully this will offer some clues as to what is going on here.

zen is the art of being at one with the two'ness
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SonicMouse
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Posted - Oct 08 2013 :  12:56:35 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
here is a dump...

It is only happening on my super large projects where there are 100K+ lines.

I can't share access with those projects, sorry.

But, here is the minidump you requested.

http://www.mouseindustries.com/dump/vc6_hang_131008_004518.dmp

In the meantime I am going to try to go back to a version where I know it wasn't doing this to see if this is a new problem or not.
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feline
Whole Tomato Software

United Kingdom
17573 Posts

Posted - Oct 08 2013 :  12:25:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Unfortunately this link is not working for me, the page is just sitting here, giving a 404 and considering redirecting me.

Given the size of your solution, its possible you are running into a known problem with VC6. For very large solutions it is possible to make the IDE crash even without having VA installed. We reproduced this problem in VC6 with an 8,000 file solution. Having VA installed seems to make the problem more likely, but VA is not the actual cause.

If this is the problem you are seeing, then we found a couple of workarounds.

If you don't use the classview, make sure VC6 is closed then delete the .NCB file in the root directory of your solution and replace it with a zero length read only .NCB file with the same name. Unfortunately since you are using Add Class this is probably not an option for you.

Method 2, disable the VA View and VA Outline, this is not guaranteed to solve the problem, which depends on the size of the workspace. To try this, turn Off the option:

VA Options -> Advanced -> C/C++ 6.0 -> Enable VA View and VA Outline

and restart VC6.

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